Interesting Woofers

[waitinonthebus]

I have a pair of Segovias. They need some work. I haven't got that at the top of list yet. Those do look like the drivers in mine.

I haven't seen but one pair on ebay and not much written about them in the forums. That pair on ebay just went for nearly $400. I was surprised. They seem well built but I'm not sure about that kind of money.

Interesting woofer but I think the mid in that speaker may be even more interesting. I'm at work and can't remember the model number but Altec lit called it a "full-range" driver and it was also used in a "patio speaker".

[Ronald Lee]

According to the seller those 12" Altecs weigh in at ~30lbs, that is truly massive. A 12" 414 wieghs 15lbs, a 515B weighs 25lbs.

[waitinonthebus]

I don't know how much they weigh for sure but I can tell you that I can't lift them out of the cabinets with just my fingers. Next time I have them out I'll weigh one just for kicks. They are heavy for sure.

[bfish]

Essentially a 411 (20.5 lbs) with maybe a pound less frame weight. Only Altec 12" I know of with a 4" coil. Oughtta be able to shake 414s off the shelf with a little extra power.

[Old Guy]

Originally posted by RKLee:
According to the seller those 12" Altecs weigh in at ~30lbs, that is truly massive. A 12" 414 wieghs 15lbs, a 515B weighs 25lbs.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bear in mind, 10 pounds or so is simply the difference between Alnico and Ferrite.

That said I'd hate to drop one on my foot.

[Ronald Lee]

Originally posted by Old Guy:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RKLee:
According to the seller those 12" Altecs weigh in at ~30lbs, that is truly massive. A 12" 414 wieghs 15lbs, a 515B weighs 25lbs.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Bear in mind, 10 pounds or so is simply the difference between Alnico and Ferrite.

That said I'd hate to drop one on my foot. </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That is true. The weights are for alnico magnets from Altec's Industrial/Professional Sound Products AL-1712-4 1/78.

Yeah if you drop one of those babies on your foot you are definitely going to scream ouch!

So did Altec actually build a 12" woofer with the magnets from either their 515 or 416 woofer?(I love looking through my old Altec and JBL brochures)

[bfish]

Originally posted by RKLee:
So did Altec actually build a 12" woofer with the magnets from either their 515 or 416 woofer?...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">600B, 414, 417, 419, not counting duplexes used 416 mags for their respective eras.

[valhallax]

i just wrote the seller. he told me the cone number was 21960-2 the frame number is 30942. is this an altec?

[cclark65]

Originally posted by bfish:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RKLee:
So did Altec actually build a 12" woofer with the magnets from either their 515 or 416 woofer?...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">600B, 414, 417, 419, not counting duplexes used 416 mags for their respective eras.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have some 600b's that I had reconed as 417's. Pretty nice sounding drivers.

[Ronald Lee]

Originally posted by bfish:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by RKLee:
So did Altec actually build a 12" woofer with the magnets from either their 515 or 416 woofer?...

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">600B, 414, 417, 419, not counting duplexes used 416 mags for their respective eras.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hmmm didn't know that. No wonder the my 414s sound so good. They are pretty much kissing cousins of the 416s.